Thursday, August 15, 2019

A Spiritual Thought of knowing own death.

A spiritual conversation, The purpose of life on this planet where is it coming from and where is it going

Of many thoughts shared, the one that struck a chord was the story of a new-age guru who saw his own death scene being played out, he knew the date, time and place of his death. Was this an out-of-body experience? How does this work?

We are born of our parents and our parents are born of their parents and so it continued over generations in time. Extending this further, it could be assumed that future generations will come forth from us, and so the chain of physical human experience will likely continue, all other things being equal.

However, in this model, the future generation is already in existence somewhere in the cosmos and the chain would ensure that the existing generation perishes in order for the next to take over physical body and space.

Here’s one explanation: the cosmos has a major influence on all life on earth. Since the influence of the Sun and Stars that make up the cosmos take a certain time to reach the earth, it can safely be assumed that by the time the next set of rays and other influences of the cosmos reach earth the in-between period is history and is already concluded or in motion.

The Story of the Earth of our generation and many more generations after us keeping the cosmos time in view as Mahavira महावीर (The saint of Jain sect in INDIA) says is as follows: Whatever is happening has already happened. Visiting the death scene of a physical body of any particular lifetime does appear to be a possibility. This concept takes a little time to understand but seems quite plausible.

Did Abraham Lincoln see his own death? There is a story about Lincoln. In a dream he reportedly saw that he was murdered and his lifeless body was kept in a particular room in the white house and surrounded by mourners whom he readily recognized. He woke up disturbed and narrated the contents of his dream to his wife. They both had a good laugh and went back to sleep.

Three days later, Abraham Lincoln was murdered and his body was in the very same room he’d described to his wife from his dream with even the sequences of mourners matching what he saw in his dream.


Many renowned authors of metaphysical works have hinted at this possibility. Similarly, several Zen masters allude to this possibility. There appears to be a significant number of people who can help others to walk through this experience. Research on Past Life Regression and Future Life Progression work is therefore gaining in popularity as a way to possibly get a firsthand view of this intriguing phenomenon.


No one except highly evolved soul see the futility of living a life of greed, control or fear. When we are young, we see our parents aging before our eyes, yet we still feel that we will be invincible; we believe that pain old age, suffering death comes to others. We see and are still blind. We delude ourselves all the time therefore this existence is called “Maya.”

There are some Scientists who are working on the concept of human existence. It is believed there are 92 elements in the Universe and each living being is a composition of some of these elements. Science teaches us the atmosphere is made of Oxygen, Nitrogen, Argon, Carbon-di-oxide and some other elements. Human’s body is also made of certain elements. In some experiment it has been discovered that there are millions of Neurones in the human body including brain. A particular neurons may show activity to a particular name but may not show any activity to another name. It could mean we are just a bunch of elements put together. That is why cosmic rays could have influence over our mental makeup or life. As humans we call it destiny. May be those who are able to connect better with cosmic rays understand the past and future.

Normal mortal beings sometimes it is better not to know the future because if it appears happy we may become restless to get into the future phase and may falter in the present life. If it appears bad then we may again falter by worrying about the future.

I think it is not too great to think of past life or future. Better to live in the present and make the best use of our time. On the other hand it is better to know so that we can rectify or do so preventive measure to reduce the effect of the outcome of the happening. Time travels in only one direction, so does our life….

It is equally or even more amazing that people insist that only our ancestor knew the truth. And what more interesting is that people are ready to believe without a second thought that only Indian Civilization and their knowledge is amazing!!

Is there any other civilization that has thought as deeply and as widely as the Indian? Of course there are gems in other Civilizations like Ancient Greek, with philosophers like Socrates and Plato. But they seem to be faint echoes of what our Rishis have said. Indian thought on Spiritual matters is, I feel, the gold standard by which other systems are judged.

Truth cannot be branded either Indian or Western. But still in India, the teachings of Vedanta have been preserved, practiced and propagated throughout the world. There is truth everywhere according to degree of how much of it is to be found somewhere.

Where truth is to be found, we must bow our heads there. That is the proper behaviour. Sun, and Moon are neither Eastern nor Western, but wherever they manifest, they give their effulgence. Similarly wherever a great personality appears (Self realised Soul, or devotee of Supreme Lord) appears, they educate and uplift the mankind by their own shining example and the glory of God. Socrates taught the soul is immortal. Christ and Muhammad taught how to become servants of God. And there are also St. Francis, King Solomon and so many other great devotees everywhere.

But when we cite India’s spiritual gems, then we think we are being Indian or sectarian. But this is our problem. Maharishi Vedvyasa has given so much profound devotional literature. And there are the Upanishads, Vedanta Sutra, Bhagwat which has been preserved by so many great personalities by their devotional examples. Even Germans have supported these contributions. Think of Schrodinger, Einstein’s dialogue with Rabindernath Tagore, to name a few.

It is unfortunate that the so called intellectuals of India have no respect for what is being given to them, nor do they understand how that teaching in integrated with all other civilisations all over the world.

Greek and Roman came up much later than Indians so they did had influential and original thinking. Field like Science, math, Astronomy, Astrology and Medical etc. did peaked in Indian Civilization but they didn’t originated in India. Things like Sun worshiping started in Sumerian Civilization.

In spirituality Indians were surely ahead of other civilization of the time. As far as Ramayana ans Mahabharata are concerned they are mythical stories told billions of time that it appears to be true.

Vedanta Sutra is amazing for its time. The status of Bible and other supporting books are to Christians and Quran to Muslims is same as that of Vedas, Upanishads and Gita. For them it is source of absolute Truth, the true words of God. Bible claims it is their God who created the Universe and everything contained in  it. Similar claims are made by Quran also. Can you accept their Claims as the ABSOLUTE TRUTH ? If not why ? Can Christian and Muslims accept the claims made by Hinduism ? I think the answer is NO.

For me Gita is good Moral and philosophical book. You wish to believe it as the Absolute Truth then it is our choice but do not say others are wrong. There are many 20th Century Scientists who got influenced by Indian civilization and so there are many who are influenced by western civilization and played important role in the development of modern science. Why aren’t there are more Indians there if our scriptures tell the ultimate truth? Atoms are mentioned in Vedanta. It is said atoms cannot be divided but science shows it can be. Did Vedanta ever explain the internal structure of atoms ? As far as Metaphysics is concerned then science surely lags as it is hardly 50 years old. But even in this small time science has given jitters to the philosophy and religions.

Indian gave Zero and Decimal system to the world which made math and calculations easy to handle. There are many more things gave to the world and in return learned quite a lot. Even till today almost all discoveries are made by west and European Countries along with Japanese and now Chinese too. How much are we contributing to the World Now..? Some are in favours and some are against India.


The point is not about which civilization is better nor is the point that is more intellect, the point is that we should not reject science and it claims just because a certain theory hasn’t been proven yet. The same logic should apply to the believers of science. 

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